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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:25 AM
Uh oh
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I don't have the stats in front of me, and of course it's all disputed and stuff like that, but the end point is that it seems to be that if you take lithium at all, it worsens you forever i.e. people who take lithium are better on lithium, and then if they go off it, their bipolar/mood disorder is forever worsened, I think specifically suicidality goes up
3:27 AM
and not to mention weight gain
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that's not forever-permanent but it sure don't immediately go away
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:27 AM
I would expect that temporarily
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Because you get used to a stable mood
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:27 AM
So when you stop cold turkey its like
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Massive rebound
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relying on a med to stabilize your mood makes you forever how to self-regulate
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:28 AM
But that's the case with antidepressants also
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I think SSRIs are a pretty bad deal
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:28 AM
I'm not sure
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and I think they're thrown at people who aren't depressed because of "hormone inbalances" so much as shitty lives
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:29 AM
Yeah
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That's unfortunately true
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There really should be a two stage approach to diagnosing depression
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they shouldn't start relying on drugs to numb it, they should try to invest in getting a better life- and society should help, instead of saying "we'll throw drugs at you"
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especially re: children and teens
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:29 AM
The first stage you ask the basics about their lives
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The second you ask about symptoms of depression
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So you can figure out if their life is fucked up and that's causing their depression or not
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can't tell you how many stories I've heard from kids who are being abused, neglected, or otherwise have absolute shit parents, and ofc they act out or get depressed and then they're put on drugs that make it harder for them in school, make them gain 60 pounds, and they get dependent on and will be on for the rest of their lives in some form or another, probably
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:31 AM
The weight gain is probably due to appetite changes
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When you're depressed you tend to not eat enough, or overeat
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naw, SSRIs do crazy things to your metabolism
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but that too, sometimes
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and other drugs can increase appetite
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serotonin, and a lot of these other "brain" chemicals, are very important in the gut as well
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:32 AM
During the worse cycles of my depression I was going days without eating anything and probably averaging 300-500 calories a day
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has to do with the fact that if your body regulates digestion based on mood
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:32 AM
Just because food did not appeal to me at all
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No matter what it was
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:33 AM
I would drink tea with honey and sugar to not pass out from low blood sugar lol
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I have low blood pressure issues
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I drink pickle brine and pedialyte
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:33 AM
Yeah I've been having those the past few days too
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They come and go for me
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when I was deep in the pit, I actually can eat quite a bit but not gain weight
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maybe because I'm a teen but I think I had some crazy metabolism stuff going on
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:34 AM
Metabolism is complicated lol
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I felt very physically taxed all the time, I can't express how much it was a physical effort to be alive
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that shit must burn calories
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:37 AM
Loool
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But I think theres also a lot of people with perfectly normal lives who have real depression
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I don't think I actually had depression, I was just mind-sick
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like, grieving isn't depression
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it was kinda like that
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:40 AM
I see
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imagine not passing out after getting out of bed, standing up and stretching in the morning this post was made by low blood pressure gang
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stand up in bed dummy
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even if i fell i'd fall into something dangerous
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it's not much safer, if at all
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unless you have a massive bed
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:47 AM
I've never passed out thank god
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god we were being meta in lounge and came to meta to be lounge
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i have and it was so much fun
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I did once when I also had the flu
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it's so cool
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:47 AM
I've fainted from pain twice but that's it
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it's like sleep but... not
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I took a bath and the room got so hot and humid, when I stood up I couldn't get enough air and I got so dizzy
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that counts as 'passed out' no?
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:47 AM
I think its different
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then Gavin woke up naked in bed lmao
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how do you faint from pain btw
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hows it worek
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pure brain hormones
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:48 AM
Your body just says nope
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Done
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OUT
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consciousness has crashed
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BSOD
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suppose it helps /shrug
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supposed to help you not bleed out
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oke i gonna sleep now
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:48 AM
It feels so fucking harrowing
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:48 AM
The two times it happened I was pretty sure that was the end
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the pass-y out response is really brain screaming "LAY DOWN LAY DOWN LAY DOWN"
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i was about to complain then i realised i already complained to you j
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lol
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so that blood will go to your head and organs with less effort
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:49 AM
Like fucking seeing stars, tunnel visioning out- and then your ears start ringing this horrible fucking noise
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Deleted User 9/23/2020 3:49 AM
As you lose the sense of touch of every thing
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that happened to me once at the zoo on a hot day as a kid, but I didn't go all the way
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memory loss is super fun when you pass out
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I saw stars and my vision tunneled and I went blind and then I started crying for ice cream lmao
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I got ice cream
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DID simulator
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/s
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oke sleep fr this time
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...after i see your reply
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I was about to say, yea, next try memory loss /without/ passing out
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